Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    http://www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    https://www.sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 619

  • Kieran Cheale
    Kieran Cheale  1 minutes back

    The beef bit killed me 😂

    • toriel
      toriel  9 minutes back

      can i just say so..
      lets say somebody beats you up and you start crying but then your body just forces you to smile and laugh
      is that close to this jokers mental illness?

      • Neil Mukhopadhyay
        Neil Mukhopadhyay  2 hours back

        I just have a problem....how are you assuming that joker has schizophrenia. ...that term is what psychologists use when they cant tell whats wrong with you...thats not really an illness...in fact joker has even made claims to some sort of super consciousness ( if we are indeed talking about the same joker here)...

        • Mr. Black
          Mr. Black  2 hours back

          Yeah um...how do i say this... you're fucking wrong. Ive seen it and trust me... you're very very wrong

          • Luis Gonzalez
            Luis Gonzalez  2 hours back

            Oh no I’m sorry 😞 I know you said no spoilers but I can bear to watch it yet. I’ll have to come back after I see the movie

            • Saad Mansoor
              Saad Mansoor  3 hours back

              joke is on you

              • gavin Driscoll
                gavin Driscoll  3 hours back

                It’s pretty clear he is not the real joker. We don’t know the real jokers name or backstory. He probably doesn’t have one so this can’t be the joker.

                • Omega Scrap Baby Chan
                  Omega Scrap Baby Chan  4 hours back

                  I feel sad for JOKER in the theater.

                  • ChoralAlchemist
                    ChoralAlchemist  5 hours back

                    VERY COOL! Super interesting. My husband was looking forward to this movie so much and now we’ll have even more to think about when we watch it. Also, thanks for the jump scare at 15:00, got me good. ;)

                    • Scott Alex Brandon Parasram

                      Joker !!
                      A mental mad man - nope.
                      A mental mad man doesnt know martial arts, business, create a laugh gas that turns u into zombie like him, joke bombs, knows not to get shoot and set up traps.
                      Lol Joker is a Batman without restraint. Simple- he is The Joker!

                      • BumbadawgTV
                        BumbadawgTV  6 hours back

                        If it was a genetic remake of the, "King of Comedy" I think--despite the fusion of Gotham and an update--it would be disappointing. I think it is more likely that he has multiple personalities..forged from abuse and other tramas. That their is a jekyll/hyde sort of thing at work. But--dunno. Looking forward to the film.

                        • Rudolfo Phillips
                          Rudolfo Phillips  6 hours back

                          If this turns out tto be true they had better save their own asses by having him wake up to a blinding light then a doctor leaning over him yelling "Jack! It's ok Jack we're here you had an accident in your room" or something like that haha

                          • James Burns
                            James Burns  8 hours back

                            Making a film theory on a move that ain’t out

                            • Random Idea dude
                              Random Idea dude  8 hours back

                              It sounds like joker. Everyone who’s a good friend knows he’s a guy who lies about his life using movies

                              • Carlo James Millano
                                Carlo James Millano  9 hours back

                                well I don't have schizophrenia but my writing sucks

                                • Preston Leven
                                  Preston Leven  10 hours back

                                  The killing joke: a semi telling of the Jokers .origin where he is a Comedian named ARTHUR!
                                  Don’t say this is the first time this has been his name when that graphic novel came out 30 years ago.

                                  Just saying.

                                  • Azul Alas Arjona
                                    Azul Alas Arjona  10 hours back

                                    if ever this is true... thank you for the spoilers...

                                    • Luis Martinez
                                      Luis Martinez  11 hours back

                                      That was a complete spoiler.. With the comment at the end you just desperately spoiled the movie... Mattpat you are so desperate...dislike and unsubscribe. You spolied my most awaited movie with a dick move

                                      • Myles Morris-Tomlinson
                                        Myles Morris-Tomlinson  11 hours back

                                        Joker creepy

                                        • Lewis Pastars
                                          Lewis Pastars  11 hours back

                                          I have a bad feeling that this is more progressive Hollywood social commentary with a focus on the ‘mental health community’. I just don’t see how they can spin a violent psychotic murderer as positive.

                                          • Michael Hayden
                                            Michael Hayden  12 hours back

                                            We live in a society, the movie

                                            • PartyGawd
                                              PartyGawd  14 hours back

                                              I can't wait to see the next theory on this new joker movie

                                              • Move Advisor
                                                Move Advisor  14 hours back

                                                I saw the movie and your wrong on all accounts! The movie is so deeper then what you think it will be. Easily the best movie I’ve ever seen.

                                                • Kasey Combs
                                                  Kasey Combs  15 hours back

                                                  15:00 it’s midnight, MatPat. You didn’t have to make me through my phone

                                                  • Waluigi Is the best
                                                    Waluigi Is the best  15 hours back

                                                    Gamers rise up

                                                    • RageFire
                                                      RageFire  15 hours back

                                                      does the movie got that pencil magic trick though?

                                                      • Emperor Orthopox
                                                        Emperor Orthopox  15 hours back

                                                        He was called Arthur White in some of the earlier comics

                                                        • GiantsJack
                                                          GiantsJack  15 hours back

                                                          great vid, hope u were right

                                                          • GiantsJack
                                                            GiantsJack  16 hours back

                                                            jesus, i'm a schizo. i'm the joker. thanks!

                                                            • Jacob Weaver
                                                              Jacob Weaver  16 hours back

                                                              I am IN LOVE with the shot of Joker preparing to walk on stage and the curtain is in front of him

                                                              • Cyrus The Great
                                                                Cyrus The Great  16 hours back

                                                                MatPat this theory is gonna flop because it's DC and the movie is called JOKER.

                                                                • Freetimer
                                                                  Freetimer  16 hours back

                                                                  Poison Ivy asks Harley Quinn-“Who are you dating?”
                                                                  Harley Quinn responds with - 0:41

                                                                  • Psyifinotic
                                                                    Psyifinotic  16 hours back

                                                                    its already been confirmed in one of the reviews

                                                                    • Dev'sAdvocate
                                                                      Dev'sAdvocate  17 hours back

                                                                      “The worst part of having a mental illness is that people expect you to act as if you don’t.”

                                                                      I felt that.

                                                                      • Cactus The Bad The Lucky Cowboy

                                                                        When i clicked on this video, the ad i got was the Joker trailer

                                                                        • The real AUDEL
                                                                          The real AUDEL  17 hours back

                                                                          It’s stupid, joker is a great fighter, smart and great at tricking and twisting people, they’re making an autistic joker in this movie

                                                                          • Oh Shoot
                                                                            Oh Shoot  17 hours back

                                                                            Dang I got a joker ad during the video

                                                                            • lilzues4335
                                                                              lilzues4335  17 hours back

                                                                              maybe he is imagining his life as terrible so he thinks that what he is doing is justifiably because he thinks he is a victim of circumstance

                                                                              • Yune
                                                                                Yune  19 hours back

                                                                                for some reason I believe everything you said might be true

                                                                                • Dan Reaper
                                                                                  Dan Reaper  19 hours back

                                                                                  Here's my theory about the joker movie. I'm going to buy a ticket and watch it and see how it ends LOL

                                                                                  • Ertürk Ersöz
                                                                                    Ertürk Ersöz  20 hours back

                                                                                    You are correct. Just watch the video of intervention of Joaquin Phoenix:
                                                                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss8N6IRo9mM

                                                                                    • Caio R
                                                                                      Caio R  20 hours back

                                                                                      You clearly hasn't researched enough. They've made it quite clear that the Joker in this movie has a real life disease that makes people laugh uncontrolably at any time...

                                                                                      • Judy ThatzIt
                                                                                        Judy ThatzIt  21 hours back

                                                                                        I’ve been on Tik Tok so much I just tried to double click the video to give it a like 🤦🏽‍♀️

                                                                                        • DJ N
                                                                                          DJ N  21 hours back

                                                                                          Oh God, the SNARK...please...
                                                                                          You had Zack Snyder and you couldn’t handle him...FFS. Such amazing blindness

                                                                                          • Natural Bae Love it!
                                                                                            Natural Bae Love it!  21 hours back

                                                                                            Can you see Child’s play old vs child’s play new

                                                                                            • Jon Ross Campbell
                                                                                              Jon Ross Campbell  21 hours back

                                                                                              His laugh is a tic, already been explained.

                                                                                              • Knox Bros
                                                                                                Knox Bros  22 hours back

                                                                                                Thing is this is probably true but that wouldn’t be his name because even the joker doesn’t know his own name

                                                                                                • RMGLEXu
                                                                                                  RMGLEXu  23 hours back

                                                                                                  @The Film Theorists hey buddy I can see ur point but if he isn't real (as a joker) then what is "Batman Dark Knight" about? the joker in there seems to be really similar, and we do know that the dark knight joker was real and this joker movie is basically him(joker) in the beginning of his infamous crime life. So if the joker from DK is real and this joker movie is the joker from DK but In the beginning then how is he not real??








                                                                                                  anyways im kinda mad b/c u ruined my hype for the movie